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User talk:Crush

2007-10-29T01:07:14Z

Arenlor: /* Apology */ commented to pegboy

== Small favor ==
If you could please change your populous 3 magic system proposal and in the very bottom the special attacks, please in the linking capitalize attacks, thanks, it'll help in the end when there is a Special_Attacks page. [[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]] 07:32, 24 October 2007 (CEST)

== A "proposal system" proposal ==

Hey Crush! Check out my [[User:Blash/proposal system proposal A|proposal system]]! If we organize the parts of the wiki that are proposals and requests in this way, things should be pretty nice.

--Blash

== Apology ==

Sorry I edited your realtime combat page. I'm new here, and I wanted to comment on the fact that I think it's a great idea. However, I'm not sure where I need to do this. Is there a discussion page for these kinds of things, or more specifically, just this? Also, I'm not even sure if this is where THIS comment belongs. o_O

Pegboy
:Pegboy you always just use the discussion page and yes this is correct as to where you put something which you say to someone. Please use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after things you say in a discussion page though, it's sort of hard to remember if you use too many forums but please try. Also see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing this] about editing a wiki, and always use the preview button. [[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]] 02:07, 29 October 2007 (CET)

User talk:Blash

2007-10-26T21:55:37Z

Arenlor: Wow lots of edits

About your edits on the 9th and 26th of June, please use the preview button next time to check that the layout of the page is ok, instead of saving a series of small corrections individually. Thanks. --[[User:BjÃ¸rn|BjÃ¸rn]] 18:13, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

== Wow lots of edits ==

Ok not sure what all you're doing but it looks cool, with templates the very point is easy and simple integration, which is why I always have the <nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki> sections. Try to give them just what they need to use the template, the rest isn't needed, and an example is always helpful. And before adding/changing a bunch of things make sure it's healthy, I talked Bjorn about the NPC things before I did them.

Dev talk:Game Wiki Work

2007-10-26T00:02:25Z

Arenlor: /* Templates */ forgot siggy

If i want to fill the page "Temple of light" what should i include, story ? graphics ? location ? or is just a written concept ? --Axltrozz
:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Write about the temple of light what you want. Eventually we'll need a location, description, concept art, etc. but you can make a start with anything. --[[User:BjÃ¸rn|BjÃ¸rn]] 02:08, 6 March 2007 (CET)

== Templates ==

For some of these things I think I'll just make a template and that way get rid of wanted pages. I'll also make a stub category and template and add them all to it. It does seem a bit useless, but it'll help because then you'll at least be able to only fill in the blank and anyone can do that. [[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]] 02:02, 26 October 2007 (CEST)

Dev talk:Game Wiki Work

2007-10-26T00:00:27Z

Arenlor: Templates

Current Guilds

2007-10-25T23:51:45Z

Arenlor: Removed double redirect

#REDIRECT [[Guilds]]

Template talk:Proposal

2007-10-25T23:44:07Z

Arenlor: No Good Examples

== No Good Examples ==

I couldn't think of an example for this either, so just fill one in if you come up with one.

Template talk:Request

2007-10-25T23:42:55Z

Arenlor: No Good Examples

== No Good Examples ==

I had no good example for this, an example of a request idk. If anyone has a good example just fill it in, you can see how easy it is.

Template:Request

2007-10-25T23:39:58Z

Arenlor: fixed typo, I really need to reread more.

<noinclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{FULLPAGENAME}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
====Passed====
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
====Rejected====
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Request]]</includeonly>

Template:Request

2007-10-25T23:39:26Z

Arenlor: ok all done?

<noinclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{{FULLPAGENAME}}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
====Passed====
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
====Rejected====
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Request]]</includeonly>

User talk:Arenlor

2007-10-25T23:38:15Z

Arenlor:

== A "proposal system" proposal ==

Hey Arenlor! Check our my [[User:Blash/proposal system proposal A|proposal system]]. This system would really organize the wiki pages better that are proposals, etc.

--Blash

:Definitely a good thing, it could easily be made into a Template: too is the good thing, and a Category: on top of that. ^_^' it's a proposal of a proposal system that I propose I could make a Template: and Category: for yikes. One thing for orginization needed is people getting together, but I think I'll make the Category: and Template: anyway and if people don't like it they can just delete it.

::I was just thinking of the same thing! A template Is what I agree with! --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 21:55, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

::I have created two templates--"request" and "proposal", and I have some examples on my proposal system page. The next major thing to do will be to find a systematic way of naming pages. Perhaps a unique ID number per proposal/request would work well. --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 23:31, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

::If you are able to make any improvements to the templates, to the formatting of the page, to make the pages easier to follow, that would be nice. --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 23:34, 25 October 2007 (CEST)
:::Yeah I'll fix'em up. They are slightly hard to follow.[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]] 23:50, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

::::Sweet. Have fun at it. I'll see if I can come up with any other ideas, too. I'm guessing some kind of table layout. Who knows. --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 00:40, 26 October 2007 (CEST)

A Note: A proposal goes through 2 stages--evaluation, and acceptance. Rejected/passed proposals are both evaluated, so they are sub-categories of "evaluated_proposals". A proposal cannot be evaluated without either passing or being rejected.

--[[User:Blash|Blash]] 01:04, 26 October 2007 (CEST)

Also, there is a issue with the page title vs. the title of the proposal--how do we make the page title = the proposal/request title so there's no redundancy? --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 01:07, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
:I had thought I had set the rejected/passed to four equals, but the one edit made it all screwy and I seem to have lost them there. We'll just use <nowiki>{{FULLPAGENAME}}</nowiki> for that, editing them as I write this. I need to stop multi-tasking so much, but Request is done.

Template:Request

2007-10-25T23:35:59Z

Arenlor: Refixed it

<noinclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|title=

|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|title=Proposals

|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{{title}}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
====Passed====
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
====Rejected====
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Request]]</includeonly>

Template:Proposal

2007-10-25T23:34:30Z

Arenlor: I hope this works right, can't tell yet grrr

<noinclude>If you make a proposal just copy and paste this in to make it nice and easy.
<pre>{{Proposal|status=red

|signatures=

|description=

|evaluation=None

|indefinitives=

|variations=
}}</pre>
And the example I've cooked up:
{{Proposal|status=green

|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|description=Proposals should be easy to follow.

|evaluation=None

|indefinitives=

|variations=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
{{status_{{{status}}}}}
==Introduction Of {{FULLPAGENAME}}==
Contributors: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Description==
{{{description}}}
==Evaluation==
The following is the state of evaluation for this proposal. 
{{{evaluation}}}
==Indefinitives==
The following are parts of the proposal that are open to suggestion: 
{{{indefinitives|(none)}}}
==Variations==
The following proposals are variations of this one: 
{{{variations|(none)}}}
[[Category:Proposal]]</includeonly>

Template:Request

2007-10-25T23:02:52Z

Arenlor: fixed another mistake

<noinclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|title=

|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|title=Proposals

|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{{title}}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Passed===
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
===Rejected===
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Request]]</includeonly>

Template:Request

2007-10-25T22:56:42Z

Arenlor: fixed a type hope it works?

<noinclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|title=

|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|title=Proposals

|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{{title}}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Passed===
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
===Rejected===
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Proposal]]</includeonly>

Template:Request

2007-10-25T22:55:25Z

Arenlor: Made this page happy and user friendly.

<noincclude>If you make a request use the following template for your requests, just copy and paste and fill in the blanks.
<pre>{{Request|title=

|signatures=

|criteria=

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</pre>
As usual, an example I randomly cook up:
{{Request|title=Proposals

|signatures=[[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]]

|criteria=*Must make some sense of how to make a proposal.
*Must be easily made into templates and categories.

|unevaluated_proposals=

|evaluated_proposals=

|passed_proposals=

|rejected_proposals=

|accepted_proposals=
}}</noinclude><includeonly>
==Request for {{{title}}}==
Requesting parties: 
{{{signatures}}}
==Criteria==
{{{criteria}}}
==Proposals==
===UnEvaluated===
The following proposals have not yet been evaluated: 
{{{unevaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Evaluated===
The following proposals have been checked against the criteria: 
{{{evaluated_proposals|(none)}}}
===Passed===
The following proposals meet all criteria: 
{{{passed_proposals|(none)}}}
===Rejected===
The following proposals don't meet all criteria: 
{{{rejected_proposals|(none)}}}
===Accepted===
The following proposals have been accepted and will be implemented: 
{{{accepted_proposals|(none)}}}
[[Category:Proposal]]</includeonly>

User talk:Arenlor

2007-10-25T21:50:20Z

Arenlor:

Archive talk:Skill system 2

2007-10-25T19:18:59Z

Arenlor: /* Exp based on difference between skill level and difficulty of task */ My input

Eeiya, I think this is a good proposal, however I offer some minor suggestions. As others have stated, we should NOT just give the EXP/items to the first person to hit it, because that would encourage players attacking every monster on a map. Instead, it should either be time, or distance based, possibly a mixture of both. For instance, move 15 tiles away from the monster and it returns to "everybody mode." Or, after you have not attacked for a certain amount of time, it will once again return to "everybody mode." We should NOT have it party based (meaning the ENTIRE party has to move away from the monster). Why? Because then there would be large parties dedicated to attacking monsters, and as long as at least one person in the party is close enough to the monster(s), everybody gets EXP. No, that won't work at all. Instead, if even ONE person in the party leaves the area, I think the monster should go back to being a free kill. BUT! Let's say that one player in the party left to go buy an item, but the rest of the party (let's say 4 people) stayed behind. The instant the player leaves, the monster goes back into free mode. However, since the rest of the party is still around, and still attacking it, the monster only stays in free mode for less than a second. Thus, the balance is maintained. I also think that only those within a certain radius of the monster should get EXP (in other words, if you go AFK and don't move, you shouldn't be able to leech off your party which is three maps away.) So yeah, just some minor suggestions, but I approve of it overall.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::[[User:Pauan|Pauan]] 04:03, 1 January 2007 (CET)

=== @Direct Combat Skills - 1 ===
Why not base the exp gained on the work done directly?
For fighters this would mean exp is calculated based on the hp loss of the enemy after each of the fighter's hits. Healers would gain exp which based on the amount of hp gained by the wounded. Combined with the ''challenge rating'', this could balance out group attacks quite nicely. Healers would be able to heal more if a group is damaged more and so profit from attacking stronger mobs as much as the rest of the team.
In this way the game server doesn't need to store a play-by-play of the fight to calculate exp. It could just be stored in a buffer, ready for use when the fight ends (allthough I would not be opposed to levelling during a fight).
This would work in the following manner:
* Player attacks with short sword equiped
* Damage to mob is calculated
* Exp for that player is calculated based on the damage done
* Exp is added to Player's sword-skill-exp-buffer (or something like that)
* Rinse, repeat
* Mob dies, exp is added OR Player dies, bye bye exp (if a buffer is used)
[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 12:09, 16 February 2007 (CET)

::This concept was in fact my first idea. But there were a lot of problems I found when I thought about it thoroughly.

::'''1st:''' When you calculate exp based on enemies hp loss, what happens when the mob is healed? Players could heal mobs intentionally again and again to harvest tons of exp.
:::''Actually, I would consider this a good tactic. We just have to calculate the numbers so that a player couldn't do it by himself after a certain level. Frankly, I would encourage this form of cooperation.'' [[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 15:51, 16 February 2007 (CET)
::::I just see here a lot of potential for abuse. It would also encourage irrational behavior. Monsters are for getting defeated. Players should be encouraged to fight them as efficient as possible. --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 00:49, 26 February 2007 (CET)
:::::''Think of it as a cat playing with a mouse, or a lioness bringing small live prey to her cubs, to teach them hunting. As I said, it should only be a viable option for weak players.''--[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 01:31, 26 February 2007 (CET)

::'''2nd:''' i) To calculate the exp of healers based on the challenge rating of the mob is also very complicate. ii) What challenge rating should apply when a fighter is attacked by multiple enemies with different challenge ratings? iii) And what is when the combat is over and the healer heals? Which attackers challenge rating does apply then? iv) And what about support spells? How should these be awarded?
:::''i,iii) I wouldn't apply a ''challenge rating'' to healing spells. Just the hp gained should be efficient. If you are the healer in a group of tanks, you won't get very far if they insist on fighting bunnies.''
:::''ii) If a fighter hits three enemies with one slash of his sword, he'll recieve exp based on the individual enemies he hits, and their respective ''challenge ratings''.''
:::''iv) For support spells we'll find a solution eventually (maybe based on magic defense of the mob).'' [[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 15:51, 16 February 2007 (CET)

::'''3rd:''' Exp based on damage done is favoring offensive characters (damage dealers) while defensive characters (tanks) are very unprivileged and receive almost no exp although they are doing a very important job, too. Of course it would be possible to give exp for received damage. But this would encourage people to get hurt as much as possible and not avoiding damage as you would expect them. This would result in very unrealistic behavior.
:::''We could base this on natural (sans magic) healing. I'll just add a quote:'' '''What doesn't kill me, makes me stronger''' ''But at this point I don't see much difference between ''tanks'' and ''fighters''. '' [[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 15:51, 16 February 2007 (CET)
::::There is a reason why I don't want any exp gain for losing hit points. People will stand around and let mobs attack them without striking back to build up hp. Maybe even while being afk. I want to reward the players for fighting efficient and not for letting the mobs beat them up. --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 00:49, 26 February 2007 (CET)
:::::''Or we could let 'defense' be an actual skill, which gaines exp if the character blocks an attack (exp based on mob lvl). We would then need to implement a 'block' action, which may only be used with certain weapons. For example you could block a sword attack with another sword but it would be much more effective with a shield. Vitality could then be based on the total exp gained on (allmost) all skills.''--[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 01:31, 26 February 2007 (CET)

::'''4th:''' The reason why I decided to distribute exp evenly between the skills is that it allows the player to train new skills while still doing the most work with the main skill. This doesn't force the player to use weak skills over and over again while they have much stronger skills. Instead it allows them to still be effective and advance in the game while the training of a new skill is a secondary task.
:::''If you'd rather be an archer after 4 weeks of being a warrior, you'd beter do the work like the rest of the n00bs :) On a more serious note, I think it will promote character diversity, and multiple characters per player.'' [[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 15:51, 16 February 2007 (CET)

::I hope you see now why i decided to do things like i did. --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 14:04, 16 February 2007 (CET)
:::''Yes and no :)'' [[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 15:51, 16 February 2007 (CET)

=== @"Forgetting" of unused skills ===
As a side note, I wouldn't decrease a random skill, I would much prefer it if a set of incompatible skills are defined. For instance if a player learns a new spell or gains a level in a magic related skill, weapon skills decrease. This would work in the following scenario: lets define that weapon skills and magic skills are incompatible; A player could be training his sword skill, gain a level in that, after which his magic skill decreases. Eventually his magic skill will decrease past the minimum level required to use that healing spell he favors. He would then need to make a decision if he really wants to train magic to regain the healing spell. Only to loose the spell once more after the next increase of his weapon skill.

The (gained exp / lost exp) quotient would have to be calculated to allow only for low level multi-purpose-characters. I would combine this with some exponential exp requirements, which depend on total exp instead of current skill level. This would mean that you could actually ruin a character completely. When the characters exp requirements for a next level of skill are very high and the skill level itself is very low.

In this way a set of compatible skills could also be defined, which will not decrease. An example which comes to mind is smithing and sword fighting.

[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 12:09, 16 February 2007 (CET)

:i like the idea of the counterbalancing of lost skills, as magic increases then weapon skills decrease ... i think there should be other ones though to, like if you chose to start using an axe as opposed to a sword, your sword skills decrease as your axe skills increase.
:[[User:zick|zick]] 12:09, 16 February 2007 (CET)

Another interesting approach to counter omni characters has been made on the forum a while ago. It was to give the players the posibility to give their characters a "trait" every 10 levels or so. A trait gives the character some advantage at one area while giving it an equal disadvantage at another. To become a very powerful fighter, spellcaster or healer the character would have to combine a lot of traits that boost one aspect of his character but weaken it on a lot of other areas. --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 04:20, 2 March 2007 (CET)04:19, 2 March 2007 (CET)

=== @New enemy spawning/exp generating proposal ===
i think this proposal would work best with a SoM/Zelda-ish battle engine, as opposed to the one that is currently implemented ...

everytime an enemy is respawned, the server determines its HP by the following equation (subject to change, shown in psuedocode):

((enemyBaseHP +/- randomNumZeroToFive) * randLVL) +/- randNumZeroToEleven)

description of this equation:
"enemyBaseHP" is a static value (doesn't change) defined in an enemies config file
"randLVL" is a dynamic value generated by using the equation (avgLvlOfPlayersOnMap +/- randNumZeroToFive) and is the level of the enemy, which determines how strong the enemy is, its drop tables, how much experience it will give, etc.
"randomNumZeroToFive" and "randNumZeroToEleven" are values generated from a dice-rolling function (6 & 12-sided respectively)
the "+/-" operator randomly chooses whether to add or subtract values

in other words, every enemy levels in the same manner as players do, gaining abilities and getting stronger with every level. You may even find level 99 maggots! Also two enemies with the same levels may actually have differing amounts of HP and give out differing amounts of exp.
--[[User:zick|zick]] 16:09, 17 February 2007 (CET)

: Ok, I like the variation principle, but only within a well defined boundary. I dislike the idea of having monster strength based on average player strength. I think exploration should be promoted and that the starting area's really shouldn't have anything of interest for higher level players.[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 21:40, 17 February 2007 (CET)

:: as far as exploration there should be some other reasons to explore than just gaining experience, such as quests. maybe even since you want add more races at some point, you always start a new character as a human, but when you make your way from the human towns to say the fish-peoples town, you gain the ability to start a new character as a fish-person (which opens new weapons (shops sell items based on sex and race), skills, and places you can go (humans can't travel everywhere that say a fish-person can and vice versa))

also something interesting that i want to add is that this makes it easier to create enemies ... just create a base species and allow it level on it own, no more trying to come up with different names for red slimes and green slimes (what happens when you run out of colors, hmmm!) ever notice how old school rpgs like ff on snes, would use the same spriteset for all of its imps and just call them imps or imp generals or imp captain, what happens when you run out of ranks. plus then i think it makes the enemies be more like the creatures of this world you've created. if we were to make a rpg of our planet, and cougars were one of the enemies, we wouldn't have blue cougars and red cougars, we'd just have cougars ... but not every cougar looks quite the same, so why not allow the enemy spriteset include variations of an enemy (check out the following image: [http://www.bottledtalent.com/images/productspuddlebunnies.gif bunnies] and check out all the different bunnies some are white some are spotted some are brown, etc.)
--[[User:zick|zick]] 16:09, 17 February 2007 (CET)

: I believe that, the green/red/white/yellow slimes are just an easy way to get started, the endgoal will most definetly be a diverse world, with different species of mobs. Basically, this stuff is waiting on well defined view of the game world, after which concept artists can get started developing a whole range of mobs. The system described here just makes it easier to be lazy.[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 21:40, 17 February 2007 (CET)

while talking about enemies, the EXP system should be mentioned and explained. First off every enemy has a base EXP value, stored in its config file. This value has the following equation applied to it:

((enemyBaseEXP +/- randomNumZeroToFive) * enemyLVL) +/- randNumZeroToEleven)

this value is the total amount of distrubitable EXP that the enemy can give. each player that contributed to the death of said enemy (who is still on the current map when death occurs) is awarded a percentage (rounded to the nearest whole number) of these EXP based on the overall percentage damage that they did. also there are two bonuses that can be applied to the EXP you are awarded. the first is called the "kill bonus" and is granted to the person who actually kills the enemy, this encourages kill stealing (part of the friendly-fire free for all system that i would like explain later). this bonus is equivalent to the "baseEXP" value. the second bonus is an "overkill bonus" and is granted when your final killing hit is more than the remaining HP of the enemy (the system knows how much damage you have to do to kill the enemy and usually won't overkill by much, unless you kill with a critical hit, a limit break, or a special move) and is generated by dividing the amount of damage over the remaining HP by the baseEXP (and of course rounding to a whole number) --[[User:zick|zick]] 16:09, 17 February 2007 (CET)

:So, basically you agree with the proposal I posted above. I like the overkill idea, though I'm not sure of it's usefulness and I'm unsure if this would work against the effort to steer higher level players to higher level areas.--[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 21:40, 17 February 2007 (CET)

:: see above on "steering" ... the bonuses are only gonna be a couple of extra exp, nothing drastic. --[[User:zick|zick]] 16:10, 17 February 2007 (CET)

even lowly maggots can be powerful enemies, if someone with a level 99 enters a map with a lot of other noobs and throws off the curve. enemies level with players and each enemy has different attacks at different levels (as well as strength and defense). enemies dont gain level until respawn. enemies generate exp, gold and have different drop tables based on their level also.
--[[User:zick|zick]] 16:09, 17 February 2007 (CET)

:''even lowly maggots can be powerful enemies...'' No, just no...[[User:Avaniel|Avaniel]] 21:40, 17 February 2007 (CET)

:: okay i think you need to keep in mind that a maggot will only have a base exp of 1 or 2, so no matter how you calculate it your still not getting a lot of exp as compared to a creature with say a base exp of 10 or 100, that'll be when you'll start getting major exp. and i'm guessing there will be a more grinder approach to how much exp you will need to gain to reach the next level, like in games like "maple story" ... --[[User:zick|zick]] 16:11, 17 February 2007 (CET)

::Haha, reminds me of the [http://prblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/killer20rabbit_1.jpg killer rabbit]. Anyway I don't think it's a good idea to scale monster toughness depending on the level of the players on the map. Instead I think we should use a rather [http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?p=16372#16372 flat leveling curve] to make sure a good amount of monsters are interesting to fight and if maggots are no longer your taste, it's simply time to move on. --[[User:BjÃ¸rn|BjÃ¸rn]] 14:21, 25 February 2007 (CET)

===Exp based on difference between skill level and difficulty of task===
Instead of exponentially increasing the amount of points required for each level, why not attatch a "target skill level" or "effectiveness level" to every performable action (including specifics, like enemy being fought etc.), and have the "current skill level" or "effectiveness level" logarithmically approach the "target skill level" of an action.

Implications:
* you can only get 100% effective at killing specific creatures, crafting specific items, etc.
* the amount of skill you develop is proportional to the relative difficulty of the task. In other words, easy things only make you so good:
for Dexterous and Mental skills,
SkillIncrease = (ActionTargetSkillLevel-CurrentSkillLevel)*learningRate, where 0% < learningRate < 100%
for Physical skills,
SkillIncrease = (ActionTargetSkillLevel-CurrentSkillLevel)*bodyDevRate, where 0% < bodyDevRate < 100%
--[[User:Blash|Blash]] 22:37, 19 October 2007 (CET)

:''Worth thinking about, but what do you mean with "learning rate" or "body development rate"? A character attribute? When that is the case I consider it a bad idea because it would make different characters progress at different speeds. Also note that the formulas you proposed aren't logarithmic.'' --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 18:37, 20 October 2007 (CEST)

::Well, learningRate and bodyDevRate I have left open to suggestion. There are a couple of ways one could go about it: a. make them global constants for all characters. b. Let the user adjust a tradeoff between the two at character creation (then the player can have the option to specialize their character more). And as I said earlier, the character's skill level logarithmically ''approaches'' the target skill level--this is the ''numerical behaviour'' of the character's skill level ''over time''. Picture a graph of the player's skill level over a series of increases and you will see what I mean. The formula here implements the ''instantaneous'' skill increase, but only implies the effect of it over time. --[[User:Blash|Blash]] 10:35 AM, 23 October 2007 (MST)
:::I think this was done in Dragon Lance, not sure of the series though, where the one character is a mage and gave up his health and body in order to further and increase his magic power, it'd be somewhat the same. You sacrifice A for B or B for A. It would also be more fair that way to people, because if I want B and the normal system favors A then I'm screwed. [[User:Arenlor|Arenlor]] 21:18, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

===Skill learning/losing based on "total max skill capacity"===
Also, you could set a skill capacity limit (a quantity) for every character, that determines how much total skill they can have at any one time. Developing skills uses up this skill capacity, until the skill has to either stop progressing or it takes away from other skills.
--[[User:Blash|Blash]] 22:37, 19 October 2007 (CET)

User talk:Blash/The proposal system

2007-10-25T19:14:42Z

Arenlor: Hear Hear!

== Hear Hear! ==

This could be Category: and Template: ized very easily (I just killed English, it's laying on the ground dead from that) which would make it 100 times simpler to find proposals and make requests.

User talk:Arenlor

2007-10-25T19:11:52Z

Arenlor: /* A "proposal system" proposal */ Added comment/response

Template:Main Character

2007-10-25T00:24:33Z

Arenlor: Putting it in at table level hopefully it'll work now

<noinclude>This template makes for the nice ability to add your character info to your userpage. It will get prettier as I have time to work on it. Leave comments/questions/suggestion/fixes/changes on its discussion page thankyou! Copy the following in and fill it in:
<pre>{{Main_Character|Name=??

|Gender=??

|Hair=??

|Level=??
|Job_Level=??
|HP=??
|MP=??

|STR=??

|AGI=??
|VIT=??
|INT=??
|DEX=??
|LCK=??
|ATT=??
|DEF=??
|MAT=??
|MDF=??
|ACC=??
|EVA=??
|REF=??}}</pre>
An example where I put all 1s and randomly chose 50 for HP and MP because I like those numbers:
{{Main_Character|Name=Generic Name

|Gender=female

|Hair=blue

|Level=1
|Job_Level=1
|HP=50
|MP=50

|STR=1

|AGI=1
|VIT=1
|INT=1
|DEX=1
|LCK=1
|ATT=1
|DEF=1
|MAT=1
|MDF=1
|ACC=1
|EVA=1
|REF=1}}
</noinclude><includeonly>
<h3>My Main Character</h3> 
'''{{{Name}}}''' 
I am a {{{Gender}}} with {{{Hair}}} hair. 
<table style="background-color:#E6E6FA;"><tr><td>Level</td><td>{{{Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Job Level</td><td>{{{Job_Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>HP</td><td>{{{HP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>MP</td><td>{{{MP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Strength</td><td>{{{STR}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Agility</td><td>{{{AGI}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Vitality</td><td>{{{VIT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Intelligence</td><td>{{{INT}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Dexterity</td><td>{{{DEX}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Luck</td><td>{{{LCK}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Attack</td><td>{{{ATT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Defense</td><td>{{{DEF}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>M.Attack</td><td>{{{MAT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>M.Defense</td><td>{{{MDF}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Accuracy %</td><td>{{{ACC}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Evade %</td><td>{{{EVA}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Reflex %</td><td>{{{REF}}}</td></tr></table></includeonly>

Template:Main Character

2007-10-25T00:23:36Z

Arenlor: Had forgotten the # should work fine now

<noinclude>This template makes for the nice ability to add your character info to your userpage. It will get prettier as I have time to work on it. Leave comments/questions/suggestion/fixes/changes on its discussion page thankyou! Copy the following in and fill it in:
<pre>{{Main_Character|Name=??

|Gender=??

|Hair=??

|Level=??
|Job_Level=??
|HP=??
|MP=??

|STR=??

|AGI=??
|VIT=??
|INT=??
|DEX=??
|LCK=??
|ATT=??
|DEF=??
|MAT=??
|MDF=??
|ACC=??
|EVA=??
|REF=??}}</pre>
An example where I put all 1s and randomly chose 50 for HP and MP because I like those numbers:
{{Main_Character|Name=Generic Name

|Gender=female

|Hair=blue

|Level=1
|Job_Level=1
|HP=50
|MP=50

|STR=1

|AGI=1
|VIT=1
|INT=1
|DEX=1
|LCK=1
|ATT=1
|DEF=1
|MAT=1
|MDF=1
|ACC=1
|EVA=1
|REF=1}}
</noinclude><includeonly>
<h3>My Main Character</h3> 
'''{{{Name}}}''' 
I am a {{{Gender}}} with {{{Hair}}} hair. 
<div style="background-color:#E6E6FA;"><table><tr><td>Level</td><td>{{{Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Job Level</td><td>{{{Job_Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>HP</td><td>{{{HP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>MP</td><td>{{{MP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Strength</td><td>{{{STR}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Agility</td><td>{{{AGI}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Vitality</td><td>{{{VIT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Intelligence</td><td>{{{INT}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Dexterity</td><td>{{{DEX}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Luck</td><td>{{{LCK}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Attack</td><td>{{{ATT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Defense</td><td>{{{DEF}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>M.Attack</td><td>{{{MAT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>M.Defense</td><td>{{{MDF}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Accuracy %</td><td>{{{ACC}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Evade %</td><td>{{{EVA}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Reflex %</td><td>{{{REF}}}</td></tr></table></div></includeonly>

Archive:Iincyo Valender

2007-10-25T00:10:10Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== The World's Leading Alchemist ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Iincyo Charlotte Valender
*'''Age:''' 43 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 5"
*'''Weight:''' 113 lbs
*'''Birthdate:''' time of year (exact date when calendar available)
*'''Eye color:''' Hazel
*'''Hair color:''' Light Blue
*'''Blood type:''' A/B
*'''Favourite food:''' Jelly Sandwich (pear flavor)
*'''Hobbies:''' Book collecting, Bug collecting, Card Games, Astronomy, Cello

Iincyo is perhaps the world's leading authority on the science of Alchemy and its mechanics. Although she was trained as a sorceress from a young age, she eventually entered the university at [[Kavaba]] near her hometown of [[Toukai]], and became impressed with the sciences. Her most notable field was Alchemy, which emulated the magic she had learned as a child through science. Iincyo quickly rose to the forefront of her Alchemy classes and eventually made many astounding discoveries of her own, such as a method of mass-producing elemental spell cards, devices that made limited magical potency available to the untrained public.

At present, Iincyo lives in a private mansion in Toukai, studying artifacts that she thinks may have been related to Alchemical science in the Old World. She has a husband, [[Jarred Valender]], but no children. Iincyo spends her spare time stargazing, as well as hunting bugs for her collection in the forests of [[Gasaro]].

Personality-wise, her most prominent traits are her professionalism and straightforwardness. Iincyo knows when to relax and when to get things done, and doesn't mind telling others off when she is busy.

*''by [[User:Kyokai|Kyokai]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Adhiz Membasharos

2007-10-25T00:09:59Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== owner of "The Golden Curry" restaurant in (town) ===

[http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/npc-cocinero1-30042005.jpg http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/thumbs/npc-cocinero1-30042005.jpg.thumb.jpg]

''Art by [Pajarico]''

*'''Full name:''' Mirshal Numeroshkas Adhiz Namash Membasharos
*'''Age:''' 50 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 0" (1,50 m)
*'''Weight:''' 110 lbs (50 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' mid-Spring
*'''Eye color:''' brown
*'''Hair color:''' black (long, dreadlocks)
*'''Blood type:''' A-
*'''Favourite food:''' creamy curry dishes
*'''Hobbies:''' experimenting with new gourmet dishes and desserts, singing "rai"-music

Adhiz owns "The Golden Curry", a fine curry restaurant in (town). Business is good, and the short and rotund man seems to always be cheerful and happy. He sometimes comes up with a totally new dish, which he serves with utmost excitement. He's quite talented a chef, and usually comes up with something edible, even good.

His pride and joy is his famous "double-coconut creamy-curry turkey-and-chicken" dish, or "super-creamy fowl" for short. Nonetheless, his regular customer, guard captain [[Tyfren Strauss]], enjoys his steamiest super-hot chicken-dish, drenched in chili-curry sauce. Well, to each their own, as they say.

Then again, Tyfren eats at The Golden Curry so often, that Adhiz gives him generous discounts. Some say Tyfren is solely to thank for most of The Golden Curry's success...

Adhiz loves singing "rai"-music, which is an exotic kind of oriental music with resonating vocals. He sings in a band called "The Rising Currys", and sometimes tours the world with them. When Adhiz is out on tour, his nephew Rafahl is in charge of The Golden Curry.

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Tyfren Strauss

2007-10-25T00:09:46Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== Captain of the Guard in (town) ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Tyfren Karnak Maches Strauss
*'''Age:''' 45 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 0" (1,79 m)
*'''Weight:''' 176 lbs (80 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' late Summer
*'''Eye color:''' green
*'''Hair color:''' brown (short, well-trimmed)
*'''Blood type:''' 0-
*'''Favourite food:''' spicy chicken curry
*'''Hobbies:''' card games, body-building, gardening (fruit trees)

Tyfren is the hard-working guard captain of (town); he is honest and respected by almost everyone. He has been in the city guard longer than most, but he's still in good shape; he still catches most bandits and thieves himself. He likes to arm-wrestle the other guardsmen, and it is said that he has never lost... All in all, he's a hardy and cheery person, slow to anger and quick to forgive.

He is quite skilled at armed combat, his favourites being long polearm weapons such as glaives and naginatas. He doesn't like teaching fighting-skills to others, though, as he opts for nonviolent methods himself, subduing bandits if he can. Bloodletting, let alone killing, is something he only does in the most dire of situations.

He enjoys body-building and other forms of excercise, but sometimes he just likes to relax in his backyard orchard filled with various kinds of fruit trees. He likes citrus fruits so much, that most of his trees bear oranges or lemons. He sometimes sells his fruits if he gets a good harvest, but usually all the fruits end up as strong homemade juice, made by Tyfren's wife Amanda.

He is particularly fond of a spicy variety of chicken curry, generously made for him by [[Adhiz Membasharos]], who owns the local curry restaurant, "The Golden Curry", in (town). Tyfren is a regular customer at Adhiz' place, so he gets discounts now and then. The local saying "like trying to steal curry from Tyfren" means something's impossible to do - and yes, Tyfren does have a healthy appetite...

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Little Bird

2007-10-25T00:09:26Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== Village idiot in (town) ===

[http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/littlebird2sc.png http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/thumbs/littlebird2sc.png.thumb.jpg]

''art by [[User:Pajarico|Pajarico]]''

*'''Full name:''' Shawn Mathias "Little Bird" Byrde
*'''Age:''' 21 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 11" (1,78 m)
*'''Weight:''' 183 lbs (83 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' late Summer
*'''Eye color:''' ice-blue
*'''Hair color:''' flaxen-blonde (long, unkempt)
*'''Blood type:''' AB-
*'''Favourite food:''' ale...
*'''Hobbies:''' drinking, playing pan-pipes or telling stories for coins

Mathias "Little Bird" was once a proud adventurer, successful and courageous. He led many a daring band of adventurers up, down, through and around the worst dangers the world had to offer. He was at the peak of his life when something happened. No one knows what or why, but it left Little Bird a charred wreck of what he used to be. He seemed to have lost all conscious thought, and fell into apathy. He started drinking, and ultimately ended up broke and lost, stranded at the outskirts of civilisation in the little town of (town).

The name "Little Bird" stems from his life as an adventurer; he used to be bony but strong, and very dexterous and fast. His face was lean and narrow, and his fair hair was always in a tall mohawk, his trademark. It's ironic that his current state is such an opposite - he has let himself go totally, his body being bulky and ungainly, and his once-stylish hair being long and greasy.

He wears a sordid collection of trinkets around his neck; old medallions, pocket watches, animal bones and small bits of junk tied on pieces of string, some multicoloured bird-feathers tied around a rune-carved piece of wood, and so on. He guards these trinkets with his life, and no one has dared to touch them (or him, for that matter).

He sometimes wakes up a bit from his torpor, and agrees to tell a tale of forlorn heroes for a coin or two. He also plays the pan-pipes with quite some skill, though his songs are always melancholic and depressive. He seems to long back to his former life, and is oftimes found crying into the night, cursing in foreign languages and long-forgotten hex-curses.

Some say that there is a connection between Little Bird's fall-from-grace and the mysterious traveller known as [[Amelia Haddings]], but no one knows anything for sure...

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Amelia Haddings

2007-10-25T00:09:13Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

=== "The razor's edge"...? ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Amelia Haddings (full name unknown)
*'''Age:''' unknown (appears to be 20-25 years)
*'''Height:''' 5' 7" - 5' 9" (1,67 - 1,72 m)
*'''Weight:''' unknown (muscular but slender body structure)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' dark green
*'''Hair color:''' dark brown (short, straight)
*'''Blood type:''' unknown
*'''Favourite food:''' unknown
*'''Hobbies:''' unknown

Amelia is a traveller without a home, a wanderer without a goal. She is most often encountered on the road or in some small village tavern or general store, taking a short break before heading off again. No one knows why or to where she travels, and no one has dared to ask her, either. She has an air of menace about her that no one really feels comfortable with; she only speaks in clipped whispers, and rarely does she show any form of politeness.

There is a legend going around, carrying the cryptic name of "the razor's edge". It speaks of a lone girl, aged a mere 19 years, who is actually a living weapon in and upon herself. The legend has been around for a while now, and some do vehemently believe that the wanderer Amelia is in fact "the razor's edge" referred to by the myth. Others discard it as a mere fairy-tale, because it tells of how "the razor's edge" once slaughtered five score fully-armed warriors - all by mistake! No one knows what is true and what is not, but the legend does nothing to detract from the omnious nature surrouding Amelia...

The only person that is said to have learned the truth about Amelia is the village idiot in (town), called [[Little Bird]], who is - ironically - thought to be completely barmy...

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Murray Greypaw

2007-10-25T00:09:00Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}

=== Retired warrior-veteran ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full Name:''' Shuritz Murray Oakhew Greypaw of Aubrek
*'''Age:''' 68 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 0" (1,80 m)
*'''Weight:''' 235 lbs (107 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye Color:''' blue-grey
*'''Hair Color:''' silver-grey
*'''Blood Type:''' unknown... "the kind that runs thicker than water", as he says
*'''Favourite Food:''' wild boar, prepared rare and bloody - or crispy and charred, either or
*'''Hobbies:''' telling stories and tales, fishing

Murray is "a warrior of a thousand wars", and he's got the scars to prove it. He used to be muscular and fit, but though he's still strong as an ox, he's gotten a bit, ehh, bulky. Nonetheless, he could still best most warriors in single combat. His expertise in weapons isn't all that intricate, but his raw strength and ferocity are what carry him through fights. He takes particular pride in his ability to still catch wild boars bare-handed...

He sometimes agrees to teach a budding adventurer how to fight monsters and survive in the wilds, but usually he can be found at the end of an old fishing rod (his "lucky fish-pole") down by the quaint forest river, or telling stories over a pint of ale to anyone who's interested. He knows a lot about the world (and invents what he doesn't know), so he is (or at least seems) knowledgeable, and many newcomers seek him out to hear a tall tale or a couple.

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Sandhoof

2007-10-25T00:08:22Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== Garret Masters' trusty horse ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Sir Isaac Sandwind-Huntington of Hoofland (he's blue-blooded...)
*'''Age:''' 9 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 7" (1,97 m) at base of neck
*'''Weight:''' 1223 lbs (556 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' brown
*'''Mane color:''' brown-blonde
*'''Blood type:''' unknown
*'''Favourite food:''' sugar cubes
*'''Hobbies:''' ...?

Sandhoof, as he's affectionately known by [[Garret Masters]] and [[Tyrone Hiro]], is a strong work-horse that Garret purchased a few years ago. Sandhoof has served Garret without flaws since, and pulls the wagon almost anywhere in the world. He has seen much of the world, and isn't scared that easily, though he dislikes unnatural things such as undead or some of the weirder monsters. He dislikes cold, though, and loves being in temperate or warmer climates. Nonetheless, he goes even through snow and ice if Garret tells him to, as he knows Tyrone always rewards him for it with a sugar cube or two...

Sandhoof is otherwise well-trained, but he's very greedy when it comes to sugar. That's why Tyrone always carries a good supply, especially of raw sugar cubes, which is Sandhoof's favourite.

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
*''thanks to Beckie for help with horse facts''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Tyrone Hiro

2007-10-25T00:08:04Z

Arenlor: Added Categories

{{Status_red}}
=== Garret Masters' bodyguard ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Tyrone Hasukito Hiro
*'''Age:''' 27 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 8" (2,00 m)
*'''Weight:''' 209 lbs (95 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' mid-Winter
*'''Eye color:''' jade-green
*'''Hair color:''' blonde-brown (buzz-cut)
*'''Blood type:''' A-
*'''Favourite food:''' bacon & fried eggs
*'''Hobbies:''' playing baliset, writing (horrible) poetry

Tyrone is the loyal bodyguard of [[Garret Masters]], the travelling merchant. Tyrone, a giant of a man, is skilled at armed and unarmed combat. His weapon of choice is the greatsword, though he shows moderate skill at hand-to-hand fighting (something he's reputed to have learned in some far-away kingdom from a martial arts master). He's a fierce fighter, even foolhardy at times, and he's utterly loyal to his employer and friend, Garret. He has several large scars from the battles he's fought in defending the caravan from danger.

Though imposing and fearsome, he's ultimately a gentle soul, with a special place in his heart for art and poetry. He spends most of his spare time writing poetry and songs, that are garishly corny. Garret often gets irritated by this, but doesn't mention it out of kindness to Tyrone. Although Tyrone doesn't seem to have the mind of a poet, his skill at the baliset (a complex guitar/sitar-like instrument) are unparallelled. He often plays long and enchanting songs to entertain himself and Garret during long travels.

The one creative flash that Tyrone has had in the ways of poetry is inventing the name for Garret's caravan; "Sunlight". He noticed that they usually arrived at any given place at the crack of dawn, and didn't leave until sunset, so it was only logical...

Tyrone also takes care of [[Sandhoof]], Garret's trusty horse that pulls the wagon they travel in.

''- by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Garret Masters

2007-10-25T00:07:54Z

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=== Travelling merchant ===

[[Image:Garret7ha.jpg|thumb|{{Image:Garret7ha.jpg}}]]

*'''Full name:''' Garret Dante Masters
*'''Age:''' 40 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 1" (1,83 m)
*'''Weight:''' 143 lbs (65 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' pale blue
*'''Hair color:''' sandy blonde (long, flowing)
*'''Blood type:''' 0+
*'''Favourite food:''' grilled beef
*'''Hobbies:''' collecting trinkets and souvenirs

Garret travels the world with his caravan, which consists of himself, his bodyguard [[Tyrone Hiro]], his covered wagon loaded with wares, and his trusty horse [[Sandhoof]]. He makes frequent stops around inhabited areas, and trades in just about anything. He usually has some wondrous item from the far reaches of the world, so people are always delighted to see his caravan, called "Sunlight", approaching. The caravan is called "Sunlight" because it usually arrives at the crack of dawn and leaves by sunset, laden with more wares to sell elsewhere.

He trades mostly in clothing, apparell and trade-wares like silk, cloth and spices, but he sometimes carries the odd weapon or seven. His prices range from dirt-cheap to ridiculously high, wholly depending on how hard (and sometimes how dangerous) it was for him to obtain the ware in question. He usually accepts requests and ideas about what to purchase from some faraway land, if he's headed there anyway. Though this costs a tiny bit more, it's usually worth it for someone unwilling - or unable - to travel to faraway lands for an item.

He likes to collect souvenirs and little trinkets to remind him of all the places he's been. He passionately guards his collection (not that anyone would want to steal it, but still...), and loves to receive some unique piece of ju-- err, exotic collectible. He might even reward the person nicely, with something exotic from his wagon...

''- by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Bernhard Evermoore

2007-10-25T00:07:35Z

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=== Carpenter of (town/place) ===

[http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/npcbernhardevermoore1200504239.png http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/thumbs/npcbernhardevermoore1200504239.png.thumb.jpg]

''-art by [[User:Pajarico|Pajarico]]''

*'''Full name:''' Bernhard Nils-Christian Evermoore
*'''Age:''' 53 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 6" (1,65m)
*'''Weight:''' 165 lbs (75 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' sometime in Spring
*'''Eye color:''' deep brown
*'''Hair color:''' walnut brown, turning grey (bushy and uncombed)
*'''Blood type:''' AB-
*'''Favourite food:''' herbal tomato soup (vegetarian)
*'''Hobbies:''' inventing, gardening (mostly vegetables and herbs), amateur astronomy

Bernhard is a skilled craftsman, especially talented at woodworking. He attributes himself the title of "inventor", because he constantly comes up with crazy ideas that probably never would work. He's tried building all kinds of gadgets and rickety-looking wooden constructions, but few have ever been completed. People think he's a bit bonkers, but in a harmless way. His bushy sideburns and wild hairstyle (or rather, lack of style) make him look totally crazy, and his excited raving about his newest invention doesn't subtract from the image - but all in all, he's a good-natured old man with no quarrel with anyone.

He's appreciated for his skill at making wooden furniture, tools and trinkets. His pride and joy, though, are the massive and juicy tomatoes that his garden produces. He refuses to tell his secret of gardening to anyone, though, but he might just disclose the recipe for a wonderful herbal tomato soup.

He might just teach people a thing or two about woodworking if they ask nicely, but they probably have to help him with something first...

''-by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive:Zax De'kagen

2007-10-25T00:06:53Z

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=== The mana seal ===

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Zax Caiaphas De'kagen
*'''Age:''' 784 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 9" (2,03 m)
*'''Weight:''' 172 lbs (78 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' yellow
*'''Hair color:''' black
*'''Blood type:''' A-
*'''Favourite food:''' jerky
*'''Hobbies:''' rough sports, occult studies, history

Born from the Tree of Life along with his sister [[Kirin De'kagen]], Zax's existence was unguided by the elemental spirit in the way that his sister's was. Because he could not speak to the world in the way she could, he eventually became jealous of her gifts and vanished to seek his own path in the world. Zax finds himself unable to manipulate mana in the form of magic, regardless of the blessings of any of the elemental spirits. He even acts somewhat like a mana magnet, sucking the life force out of those around him to a small degree. The very space around him becomes void of mana.

His body is covered with strange markings of an occult nature, which he himself did not know the significance of for many years. He exudes a frightening and oppressive aura to all around him, in part due to his tall stature and strong build, but also due to the void of mana that follows him.

Through Zax's searches, he is able to unravel the true nature of his existence as a seal against the mana that once filled the world. Because his exietance prevents others from using the power of mana to its fullest extent, he was for a time pursued by the six demons, eventually going into hiding, from which he has not been found. Rumors are spreading now that Zax may have found a way to tap into the powers of the old gods, given that he is a being also totally void of mana, just as they. If this is true, it effectively puts him on a level with the demons, each fighting to obtain mastery over the mana world. Perhaps he plans to beat them at their own game when the time comes...

''Story by [[User:Kyokai|Kyokai]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Important_NPC]]

Archive talk:Important NPCs

2007-10-25T00:05:56Z

Arenlor: Redirect?

== Redirect? ==

I say put this page as a redirect to Category:NPC

Archive:Azerel

2007-10-25T00:02:05Z

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=== The Banished ===

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*'''Full name:''' Azerel
*'''Age:''' 666 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 5" (when in human form)
*'''Weight:''' 185 lbs
*'''Birthdate:'''
*'''Eye color:''' pure black
*'''Hair color:''' black
*'''Blood type:''' AB-
*'''Favourite food:''' coffee
*'''Hobbies:'''

The demon Azerel has many supernatural powers; his most noticeable of them is the power to shift forms. His most commonly used shape when not in battle is that of a black dog.

He seems to enjoy murder more then any other demon and has been blamed for many unspeakable crimes.
He is famous for destroying an entire band of warriors in minutes and sending there bodies to their families.
It also seems that he has obtained the power to control the minds of the weak.

Although he has been banished, he has not lost his power and he is still a major force in the world of mana.
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Demons]]

Archive:Mclecht Rodium

2007-10-24T23:57:41Z

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Mclecht Rodium is the lead sage of the Temple of Time.

''(no picture)''

*'''Full name:''' Mcl'cht Br'z R'd'm
*'''Age:''' 1091 years?
*'''Height:''' 6' 6" (1,95 m)
*'''Weight:''' 167 lbs (76 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown (reputed to have been around since the dawn of time)
*'''Eye color:''' deep, clear blue
*'''Hair color:''' snow-white (very long)
*'''Blood type:''' unknown
*'''Favourite food:''' unknown
*'''Hobbies:''' strategy games, philosophy

Mclecht Rodium, as he is known by most, is almost as ancient as Time itself. If he in fact is a "he", that is - there are rumours that the sage known as Mclecht Rodium is actually genderless...

It - the sage - is over a thousand years old, and has the wisdom to prove it. Its long, billowing hair is a testament of the full millennium Mclecht has seen; its eyes shine with an inner light of frozen, cold blue - the light of pure and clean wisdom. Its body looks ancient, but not withered. Mclecht carries itself around with a power and purpose that belies his frail shell; it is always ready to tend to those in need of aid, for it has many millennia worth of time left...

Mchlecht wears the simple and spartan light grey robes of a mana sage, and no decorations or trimmings save for a single golden feather hanging as a pendant around its neck. When asked about it, Mclecht usually replies with something cryptical about time's passage on golden wings or something.

Although Mchlecht seems very alien, it is in fact just as much a mana sage as any of the others. It enjoys contemplative debates about logics and morality, and strategy games such as the ancient games known as SÃ³gi and GÃ³. It's said that these games take only little time to learn but, conversely, a very long time to master - and Mclecht does indeed have Time on its side...

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Gryphonne Stravag

2007-10-24T23:56:59Z

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Gryphonne Stravag is the lead sage of the Temple of Space.

[http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/gryphonne2ch.png http://themanaworld.org/archive/pajarico/thumbs/gryphonne2ch.png.thumb.jpg]

''Art by [[User:Pajarico|Pajarico]]''

*'''Full name:''' Immanuel Gryphonne Absalom Stravag
*'''Age:''' 634 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 2" (1,55 m)
*'''Weight:''' 88 lbs (40 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' white-within-white
*'''Hair color:''' none
*'''Blood type:''' 0Â±...
*'''Favorite food:''' cinnamon
*'''Hobbies:''' mathematics, astronomy, physics

Gryphonne is an eerie entity to behold; milky pale, white-within-white eyes stare out from an angular and bald head. But appearances can deceive, and Gryphonne is in no way evil or otherworldly. In fact, he is a very kind soul who aids wandering travellers and those who have lost their way. He's quite small to his stature, but he's very agile and fast.

As sage of the temple of space, Gryphonne is gifted with powers by Teless, the spirit of space magic. Gryphonne is talented in the areas of mathematics, physics and astronomy, and can calculate very intricate formulae adhering to the areas of space and spatial sense. Many cartographers and arcitechts actually come to him for advice concerning difficult parts of their work.

Gryphonne is quite a sombre person, but cannot be attributed with any negative sides, aside from being slightly absent-minded. He tends to wander aimlessly sometimes, but those who think they know him better say it's merely a facade, that he always knows exactly where he's going... even in a deeper sense of things. Gryphonne is said by some to be the most purposeful being in existence...

*''by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Kirin De'kagen

2007-10-24T23:56:02Z

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{{Inconsistent with backstory}}
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[[Image:Kirin by clef.jpg|thumb|250px|{{Image:Kirin by clef.jpg}}]]

[[Image:Mana Goddess cropped.jpg|thumb|250px|{{Image:Mana Goddess cropped.jpg}}]]

Kirin De'kagen is the sage of the Temple of Mana.

*'''Full name:''' Kirin Arianna De'kagen
*'''Age:''' 784 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 11" (1,78 m)
*'''Weight:''' 108 lbs (49 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' blue
*'''Hair color:''' auburn
*'''Blood type:''' A-
*'''Favourite food:''' carrot cake
*'''Hobbies:''' gardening, woodwind instruments, baking sweets

Kirin was born consecrated to the spirit Gen, and has lived her long life under the constant guidance of the spirit of Mana. For this reason, she reflects the traits of vitality, wisdom, and hope. She is normally a carefree soul, though the light of deep thought and philosophy glows behind each word and gesture she makes. Her primary duty as the sage of Life is to instruct humans in the way of life in consistancy with nature. For this reason, she sends them on quests that improve the world by giving back to the environment, caring for its creatures, and defending it from those who would take advantage of it. To those who gain a true understanding of the principles of balance and rebirth, she grants the power of Gen, the spirit of Life.

Kirin is married with eight children, which serve as priests in the temple of Mana (part of her duty as the sage of Life is to bear a certain number of children in her own lifetime). Each of these serves as her attendants and as priests and priestesses in the temple of mana, tending to the Tree of Life. Each of her 8 children are aligned with one of the 8 elements, and also serve to instruct players on the balance between their elements and the world as a whole. They are also instrumental in the quests assigned by other temples. At her heart Kirin is indeed a family person, and tries to balance her duties as a sage against those to her husband and children.

Kirin was born from the Tree of Life when the Age of the Gods ended and the original sage of mana gave her life to seal mana from the destructive humans. Along with her was born a boy she came to call brother. This man, [[Zax De'kagen]], is supposedly alive in the mana world somewhere, though all traces of him have been lost. Though she has lived under the oppressive duties of a sage for her entire life, Kirin has developed a profound appreciation for the mundane affairs of life. She is kind and understanding, even lighthearted at times. Her most striking characteristic is the wonder with which she observes all life around her, paying as much attention to the needs and cares of the growing grass as to any human visitor.

NPC character by [[User:Kyokai|Kyokai]]: [[Image:KirinDekagen character.png]]

*''story by [[User:Kyokai|Kyokai]]''
*''formatted by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Garathos Penarae

2007-10-24T23:54:58Z

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Garathos Penarae is the sage of the Temple of Light.

''no picture''

*'''Full name:''' Garathos Zenare Uri Penarae
*'''Age:''' 212 years
*'''Height:''' 6' 2" (1,85 m)
*'''Weight:''' 150 lbs (68 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' unknown
*'''Eye color:''' unknown
*'''Hair color:''' light brown
*'''Blood type:''' B+
*'''Favourite food:''' cheesecake
*'''Hobbies:''' singing, woodworking, teaching the other sages of the light temple

Not much is truthfully known about Garathos. To humans, he has resided at the temple of light for all memory. He is a hearty and light-spirited, if slightly aged, man, often bursting into song in the temple for no readily evident reason, and bears a fond love for all beings who cross the threshold of his home. Uplifting the spirits of those around him, he seems not to bear a care in the world.

In truth, however, Garathos hides several bitter secrets behind his smiling face. He was once an adventurer, seeking treasure and glory in the darkest of places. Once, hearing of a great treasure to be had, he ventured into the seething blackness of the lair of an ancient demonic beast. None are certain what transpired within that labyrinthine abyss, but he was driven to the brink of madness by the time he emerged.

Wandering in a delusional and deranged state, he eventually came upon the temple of light. Lumine, seeing his plight, took him in, mended his wounds, and eased his shattered mind. Realizing his fortune, Garathos was quick to renounce the adventurer's life to devote himself to the temple of light, quickly earning the title of sage. Devotedly spreading the news of his benefactor, the young sage attracted several pupils, whom he now endeavors to train in the ways of the light.

Now, only his somewhat eccentric habits and odd appearance betray anything of his past. A lit lantern, his most prized possession, is ever with him, even in full daylight. None ever see his eyes, for they are ever hidden behind a thick blindfold, "to protect my eyes from the full brilliance of the light, and that I might never look upon the shadows of this world again." None is certain what would happen if Garathos' eyes were ever again revealed.

*''Story by [[User:Talaroc|Talaroc]]''
*''Formatting by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Sus'anoo Milachts

2007-10-24T23:54:05Z

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Full name: Sus'anoo Milachts

Age: 1500 years

Height: 7' 2"

Weight: 187 lbs

Birthdate: Unknown

Eye color: Red

Hair color: Bald

Blood type: A-

Favorite food: Chili Peppers

Hobbies: Pyrotechnics, Fireworks

Even when Sus'anoo was young, He had a love for Fire. When he was seven years old he accidentally burnt his village to the ground. In a rage the townspeople kicked him out of town. He wandered for many years after that.

When he was the age of 32 he came across the Temple of Fire. He rushed inside to look for the keeper of the temple. So he could offer his services to them. Sus'anoo found the keeper in he quarters, dieing of an illness. Sus'anoo took care of the man until his dieing day. And for this, he was bestowed the title of keeper. But, this was not enough for the young man.

Sus'anoo studied for hundreds of years in the temple, gradually becoming more knowledgeable of the firey arts. With this knowledge came power and strength. Sus'anoo knew that he had the skills necessary to have the title of Fire Sage.

But, Now His time is coming and he too is looking for someone to take his place.
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Terhi Gradyx

2007-10-24T23:53:29Z

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Terhi Gradyx is the Sage of the Temple of Earth.

http://anim.defines.us/terhiGradyxConcept.png

*'''Full name:''' Terhi Elegy Gradyx
*'''Age:''' 443 years
*'''Height:''' 5' 11" (1,77 m)
*'''Weight:''' 141 lbs (64 kg)
*'''Birthdate:''' mid-Autumn
*'''Eye color:''' brown-grey
*'''Hair color:''' dark brown
*'''Blood type:''' 0+
*'''Favourite food:''' rye bread & boiled egg
*'''Hobbies:''' archery, dialectics (the art of debating), meditation

Terhi is a calm and sombre person; her primary pastime is meditating upon deep thoughts such as matter and existence itself. She appears very formal, sometimes even rigid. Her straight, brown hair is usually worn in a long plat with a bronze clasp, and her robes always appear clean and tidy.

Even though her appearance is rather formal, her behaviour is quite the opposite; she is joyful and happy, even naÃve at times. Some call her childish, but in truth she is everything but that. She takes care of her duties with utmost precision, showing a unique blend of lightheartedness and sense of duty.

She practices archery, and is quite skilled with a bow and arrow. She does not flaunt her skill, however; sometimes she even seems slighly embarrassed about her skill. She is a tad shy, and blushes quite easily. Even so, she demonstrates an astounding intellect, and likes to debate and discuss matters of all sorts. She can sometimes be caught up in it, and end up discussing something totally pointless, just for the practice in debating.

''- by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]''
''- image by [[User:Mkael|Mkael]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Heketch Tghelmann

2007-10-24T23:52:43Z

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{{Inconsistent with backstory}}
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== Sage of the Temple of Darkness ==

[[Image:HeketchSmall.jpg]]
* art by [[User:Mkael|Mkael]]
[[Image:TempleGuardSmall.jpg]]
* art by [[User:Mkael|Mkael]]
[[Image:Npc-heketch1.jpg]]
* art by [[User:Pajarico|Pajarico]]

'''Full name:''' Heketch Kyzyl Tghelmann 
'''Age:''' 116 years 
'''Height:''' 6' 11" (2,08 m) 
'''Weight:''' 147 lbs (67 kg) 
'''Birthdate:''' unknown 
'''Eye color:''' pale red 
'''Hair color:''' jet-black 
'''Blood type:''' 0- 
'''Favourite food:''' mushroom soup, very spicy 
'''Hobbies:''' poetry (mainly elegy), theatre, collectible games

Heketch was appointed Sage of Darkness as the last survivor of his clan, brutally murdered by the army of one of the 6 demon lords. Alone and lost, he stumbled into the temple of Tenebrae, who took him under its wing as a child. Raised by Tenebrae, Heketch has a somber and reserved disposition. He isn't malicious, but shows little feeling for the plights of others.

More than any other sage, Heketch does not choose those he grants the power of Tenebrae based on their attainment of balance, but on their understanding of the nature of the element. Darkness is what fills the absence of all else. It must be held back by those who wield it, lest it consume the whole of the mana world without their guidance. To Heketch, the purpose of darkness is to hide that which must be concealed, to fill that which cannot be filled, and to place an end to every begining in its proper time.

The physical appearance of the sage is a mystery, as he hides behind a cloak of darkness most of the time, showing only his face, which is pale and sickly. He lives in the temple of darkness alone, though sometimes entertaining artists whose work he finds particularly to his taste (which is pensive, and often macabre). Because of his past experiences, Heketch is often averse to humans, especially those of races similar to the ones that slaughtered his family.

*story by [[User:Kyokai|Kyokai]]
*formatted by [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]]
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Aurora Sharadin

2007-10-24T23:51:53Z

Arenlor: Dropped an s in the original edit

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Aurora Sharadin is the Sage of the Air Temple

http://origin.defines.us/concepts/auroraLightSmall.jpg

*'''Full name:''' Aurora Sharadin
*'''Age:''' ~150 years
*'''Height:''' her height is not a constant value, from 6' 00" (1,80 m) to 8' 00" (2,40 m)
*'''Weight:''' she is almost weightless because of her nature, her garment weighs ~1 kg
*'''Birthdate:''' time of year (exact date when calendar available)
*'''Eye color:''' silver
*'''Hair color:''' almost golden, mostly yellow, glitters. Hair length hard to say, she can alter it alot
*'''Blood type:''' unknown
*'''Favourite food:''' rain clouds
*'''Hobbies:''' floating, talking with the people of The Mana World, travelling

Aurora resembles the child in everyone of us. She is happy, smiles alot and likes to cheer people up. Usually when not found in the Temple of Air she is travelling around the known parts of The Mana World and talking with the people she meets. Sometimes she gets lost or goes to unknown territories for the excitement. She has been warned of the dangers which lurk in the shadows but Aurora still wants to believe that there is good in every creature and that nothing or no one will harm her.

Because of her status and her skills, she can do extra ordinary things that some could think impossible. She can alter her height and the length of her hair, sometimes she uses her hair like a big sail and uses it to glide in blue the skies.

She wears a headband of some kind to keep her hair in somewhat order. She has a jewel on her forehead.

''- text and concept art by [[User:Mkael|Mkael]]''
[[Category:NPC]][[Category:Sages]]

Archive:Aurora Sharadin

2007-10-24T23:51:21Z

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Category:NPC

2007-10-24T23:49:38Z

Arenlor: Made minor note to keep it clean

All the different NPC categories, click one to view them.
Please use [[Template:NPC]] when you add an NPC page and don't forget to add this category and their main category.

Category:NPC

2007-10-24T23:42:01Z

Arenlor: Created this page

All the different NPC categories, click one to view them.

Template:NPC

2007-10-24T23:37:57Z

Arenlor: Fixed it up following Bjorn's thoughts

<noinclude>Use this when creating an NPC. Just copy and paste. All credit goes to [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]] for the styling.
<pre>{{NPC|Name=??
|Title=??

|Picture=??

|PictureA=??

|FullName=??
|Age=??

|Height=??

|Body=??

|Birthdate=??

|Eye=??

|Hair=??

|Blood=??

|Food=??

|Hobbies=??

|Author=??

|Descript=??
}}</pre>
An example I cooked up:
{{NPC|Name=Generic NPC
|Title=Head Generic

|Picture=Tmw_logo.png

|PictureA=Arenlor

|FullName=Generic The NPC
|Age=0

|Height=1,625 m

|Body=Athletic

|Birthdate=Spring

|Eye=Orange

|Hair=Black

|Food=Roast Maggot

|Hobbies=Hunting Maggots, Helping New Players

|Author=Arenlor

|Descript=Generic NPC doesn't get a long story generally. His parents were killed by a Maggot when he was a new player, so now he obsesses over killing them and helping new players.
}}
</noinclude>
<includeonly>
== {{{Name}}} ==
== {{{Title}}} ==
[[Image:{{{Picture}}}|frame|By: [[User:{{{PictureA}}}|{{{PictureA}}}]]]] 
*'''Full Name:''' {{{FullName}}} 
*'''Age:''' {{{Age}}} Years 
*'''Height:''' {{{Height}}} 
*'''Body Type:''' {{{Body}}} 
*'''Birthdate:''' {{{Birthdate}}} 
*'''Eye Color:''' {{{Eye}}} 
*'''Hair Color:''' {{{Hair}}} 
*'''Favorite Food:''' {{{Food}}} 
*'''Hobbies:''' {{{Hobbies}}} 
*'''Description:''' 
{{{Descript}}} 
*By: [[User:{{{Author}}}|{{{Author}}}]]</includeonly>

User talk:Aacheron

2007-10-24T22:41:59Z

Arenlor: Cool Template

== Cool Template ==

I took it and made it an actual template in case you didn't catch on yet, full credit is given.

Template:NPC

2007-10-24T22:33:38Z

Arenlor: Created this page (Hope it works right ^_^')

<noinclude>Use this when creating an NPC. Just copy and paste. All credit goes to [[User:Aacheron|Aacheron]] for the styling.
<pre>{{NPC|Name=??
|Title=??

|Picture=??

|PictureA=??

|FullName=??
|Age=??

|Height=??

|Weight=??

|Birthdate=??

|Eye=??

|Hair=??

|Blood=??

|Food=??

|Hobbies=??

|Author=??

|Descript=??
}}</pre>
An example I cooked up:
{{NPC|Name=Generic NPC
|Title=Head Generic

|Picture=Tmw_logo.png

|PictureA=Arenlor

|FullName=Generic The NPC
|Age=0

|Height=65

|Weight=140

|Birthdate=Spring

|Eye=Orange

|Hair=Black

|Blood=B-

|Food=Roast Maggot

|Hobbies=Hunting Maggots, Helping New Players

|Author=Arenlor

|Descript=Generic NPC doesn't get a long story generally. His parents were killed by a Maggot when he was a new player, so now he obsesses over killing them and helping new players.
}}
</noinclude>
<includeonly>
== {{{Name}}} ==
== {{{Title}}} ==
[[Image:{{{Picture}}}|frame|By: [[User:{{{PictureA}}}|{{{PictureA}}}]]]] 
*'''Full Name:''' {{{FullName}}} 
*'''Age:''' {{{Age}}} Years 
*'''Height:''' {{#expr: {{{Height}}}/12 round 0}}' {{#expr: {{{Height}}} mod 12}}" ({{#expr: {{{Height}}}*2.5/100}} m) 
*'''Weight:''' {{{Weight}}} lbs ({{#expr: {{{Weight}}}/2.2}} kgs) 
*'''Birthdate:''' {{{Birthdate}}} 
*'''Eye Color:''' {{{Eye}}} 
*'''Hair Color:''' {{{Hair}}} 
*'''Blood Type:''' {{{Blood}}} 
*'''Favorite Food:''' {{{Food}}} 
*'''Hobbies:''' {{{Hobbies}}} 
*'''Description:''' 
{{{Descript}}} 
*By: [[User:{{{Author}}}|{{{Author}}}]]</includeonly>

Template:Main Character

2007-10-24T21:31:07Z

Arenlor:

<noinclude>This template makes for the nice ability to add your character info to your userpage. It will get prettier as I have time to work on it. Leave comments/questions/suggestion/fixes/changes on its discussion page thankyou! Copy the following in and fill it in:
<pre>{{Main_Character|Name=??

|Gender=??

|Hair=??

|Level=??
|Job_Level=??
|HP=??
|MP=??

|STR=??

|AGI=??
|VIT=??
|INT=??
|DEX=??
|LCK=??
|ATT=??
|DEF=??
|MAT=??
|MDF=??
|ACC=??
|EVA=??
|REF=??}}</pre>
An example where I put all 1s and randomly chose 50 for HP and MP because I like those numbers:
{{Main_Character|Name=Generic Name

|Gender=female

|Hair=blue

|Level=1
|Job_Level=1
|HP=50
|MP=50

|STR=1

|AGI=1
|VIT=1
|INT=1
|DEX=1
|LCK=1
|ATT=1
|DEF=1
|MAT=1
|MDF=1
|ACC=1
|EVA=1
|REF=1}}
</noinclude><includeonly>
<h3>My Main Character</h3> 
'''{{{Name}}}''' 
I am a {{{Gender}}} with {{{Hair}}} hair. 
<div style="background-color:E6E6FA;color:white;"><table><tr><td>Level</td><td>{{{Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Job Level</td><td>{{{Job_Level}}}</td></tr><tr><td>HP</td><td>{{{HP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>MP</td><td>{{{MP}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Strength</td><td>{{{STR}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Agility</td><td>{{{AGI}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Vitality</td><td>{{{VIT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Intelligence</td><td>{{{INT}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Dexterity</td><td>{{{DEX}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Luck</td><td>{{{LCK}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Attack</td><td>{{{ATT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Defense</td><td>{{{DEF}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>M.Attack</td><td>{{{MAT}}}</td></tr><tr><td>M.Defense</td><td>{{{MDF}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Accuracy %</td><td>{{{ACC}}}</td></tr>
<tr><td>Evade %</td><td>{{{EVA}}}</td></tr><tr><td>Reflex %</td><td>{{{REF}}}</td></tr></table></div></includeonly>

User:Arenlor

2007-10-24T07:30:44Z

Arenlor: Yay created it with my template. Time for zzz will work on my template more when awake and also I'll work on creating a real template for NPCs using Aacheron's example.

== Arenlor ==
{{Main_Character|Name=Arenlor

|Gender=male

|Hair=purple

|Level=23
|Job_Level=10
|HP=166
|MP=34

|STR=21

|AGI=17
|VIT=11
|INT=5
|DEX=11
|LCK=11
|ATT=44
|DEF=13
|MAT=11
|MDF=5
|ACC=34
|EVA=40
|REF=1}}